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Dawn Kroh's avatar

Old white dudes who are pretty much responsible for how we got here need to STFU already. So sick of hearing them using fear and cowardice to make themselves feel better about the shithole they put all of us in. Just get out of the way if you don’t want to defend democracy!!!😡

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Dawn Kroh's avatar

Men talk about women all the time as an undifferentiated mass. How many dumb blonde jokes do you think I have had to listen too? How many movies that portray women in that way do I need to watch. This is still happening every day in a myriad of ways. Deflecting white male responsibility and saying bad t women are the problem IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM. Don’t think for a minute I don’t have the very same sentiments about White Women needing to step up, they do! However men hold the power in this country and they damn well need to start using their power to demand change. I would encourage you to recognize your own prejudices!

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Daniel Mason's avatar

I would encourage you to check your grammar and stop posting sexist generalizations if you don't want to hear dumb blonde jokes.

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Dawn Kroh's avatar

Oh Daniel you seem so sensitive about this instead of speaking out and standing up. Just like I said lots of whining and telling others what to do while you do nothing. GTFO if your choice is to fight me instead of fighting for democracy!

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Majesterial Joy's avatar

His widdle man fweelings are hurted

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Majesterial Joy's avatar

You're a douchebag, danny boi

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Gary's avatar

Yeah…all old white dudes are the same. Fuck off with that bullshit.

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Dawn Kroh's avatar

You are correct, they aren’t all the same but we sure don’t see many doing a whole lot, while we do see a bunch whining about things. Their time to shine if they can step up!

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Joe's avatar

If they aren't all the same, stop talking about them as if they were.

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Dawn Kroh's avatar

I will when they step up in numbers and start really pushing back in visible, meaningful ways over a prolonged period. Feel free to lead the charge.

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Joe's avatar

A majority of white women voted for Trump in the last three presidential elections.

Also you might ask yourself if the casual contempt for men that is so pervasive in progressive circles might play a role in repelling men from progressive causes. Are you open to listening to men who talk about women as if they were a single undifferentiated mass?

I would encourage you to interrogate your own prejudices.

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Doc Blase''s avatar

We don't need to measure up to your imaginary sexist, agist criteria. Buh-bye.

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Gary's avatar

This we can agree on.

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Majesterial Joy's avatar

It's old white dudes

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Donna Handley's avatar

And some have very nasty negative backgrounds. They sound more stupid when they talk

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Diane Rizer's avatar

AAAAAMEN!!!! I’ve been saying the same thing. They talk a big tough game but when it comes time to do something, to speak up, to put their name on the line, they bow their heads like the snowflakes they are. Probably with a Glock strapped to their side. 🙄Women’s protectors my ass. I grew up with these kinds of dudes promising to protect and only turning their backs when it got too real and uncomfortable for them. They can go pound sand.

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40belowzero's avatar

45% of women voters voted for Trump. Stop generalizing.

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Majesterial Joy's avatar

New study says that they didn't

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Karen Neves 🇨🇦's avatar

You are so right. They need to take several seats

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Doc Blase''s avatar

Date a horse. We are not all the same, any more than old white women are all pretty much the same.

You should know better at your age. Wise up.

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Patricia Wren's avatar

👍👍👍👍👍

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Frank Booth's avatar

You’re the problem. Blaming white dudes for all of our problems. You’re living in the greatest country in the world.

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Dawn Kroh's avatar

Every excuse you offer for lazy, selfish, arrogant, bad behavior is just more proof you might be exhibiting some yourself!

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Susan Klemetsen's avatar

I don't believe democracy is done. I'm not willing to give up just because it is hard. I will continue to fight to the end. I will NOT abandon the country for its bones to be picked.

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G. Wallace's avatar

The real problem is the extremists that have been trusted with taking care of the country are allowing a few monetarily wealthy individuals to strip it of its foundations!!! The fear is coming from the cowards in charge of checks and balances, who are not listening to the other side nor, the constituents who put them in charge! If they are afraid to do their jobs simply step down so that someone who is not afraid can. I totally agree with you Susan, to give up and blame both sides is a total copout!! This country and its citizens are fighters and this chaotic season we are facing is temporary, but there is one thing for sure we as a nation will never ever forget the people who participated in putting us here!

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REPUBLIA's avatar

The irony is, that to breach the Constitution that forms the Offices our Public Servants currently hold, is to dissolve their own seats in the General Government, whilst the State Governments persist, and we pursue happiness as Members of our unchangeable Republic, turning Two Hundred & Forty-Nine tomorrow!

https://open.substack.com/pub/republia/p/the-irony-of-demagoguerys-self-abdicating?r=4ucf6d&utm_medium=ios

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Bread And Circus's avatar

Nope! Republicans have pushed fear and hate for over 40 years. Republican voters reject the facts because they are addicted to the lies. There are not extremists on both sides. We continue to reach out to Rs in town halls, outreach. I show kindness and empathy to all. It is a false equivalence to compare the country to a marriage in disrepair. Thanks for letting me comment.

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SAS's avatar

Exactly. The comparison is nonsensical!

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MU2002's avatar

Hahahah…the Dems 2024 campaign was literally ‘the other guys are nazis hell bent on destroying democracy’…you hold yourselves in such high regard yet your party is and has been the party of hate and political violence for as long as I can remember.

Answer me this…who would be safer and more welcomed…A guy in a MAGA hat at a Democrat rally or guy in a Kamala shirt at a Republican rally? Be honest…it’s not even a contest.

if you’re to restore your party, you need to do a lot of self-reflection. You’re no longer viewed to be the ‘good guys’ you believe you are. You’ve been exposed and can’t seem to find a way back.

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Doc Blase''s avatar

This bullshit is why you are gone from my feed. Support the fascists and find out. No contest. I don't care about your stupid analogy.

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ttto's avatar

And they were right

Now youre alone and set for isolation

China will now steamroll the US

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MU2002's avatar

alone? how so?

Where are you from, exactly?

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ttto's avatar

Ur gonna die lol

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Stephen Nass's avatar

That is not my experience with Democrats at all. I cant get a Dem to show up at my community center for a friendly debate on any topic, but Republicans will show.

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ttto's avatar

Clown

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Vitellina's avatar

Yes - and when the abused calls the drunken abuser out - they flip out. How dare anyone ask these white older dudes to face their misogyny and racism.

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Bread And Circus's avatar

Exactly

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Deanne's avatar

Old white dudes using both sides theory when it wasn’t both sides voting for a fascist racist narcissistic criminal.

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Charles Ladd's avatar

It's the ultimate cop-out. Another Caucasian coward.

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Brad B's avatar

Joe was pretty bad

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RobertTheWemyss's avatar

Uhm….Joe Walsh didn't last very long. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Frantz Rantz's avatar

There aren't 2 sides. There is MAGA. And there is everyone else. MAGA will never even listen to anyone else. MAGA has no interest in hearing or understanding any other position or ideas. They will say that about anyone else who attempts to debate them or communicate. Anyone trying to discuss or debate anything with them is seen as enemies attacking them and “their way of life”, “canceling them”, and being arrogant or intolerant “leftists” or “libtards.” This in turn is a force multipler of hate and rage against “the Left.” Which only exists in their need to feel persecuted in order to justify their hate, bigotry, racism, xenophobia, nativism, etc.

I saw multiple examples just in the past hour. I don't see any way past this.

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dave's avatar

Can you give example? I’m not on any side, but I know a lot of scientists, and follow even more, who were shutdown or had accounts terminated by social media companies. What would you like to say?

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SPHINCTERPUSS,'s avatar

Both side ism? Really 400 million jet thatcwill cost 3 times that to make it usable and the meme coin dinner last night..mocking Bidens cancer..one day soon both side is people are going to be getting punched in the fucking face and good people will cheer the blood. And not feel bad about it.

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judy rial's avatar

White supremacy is just as bad as antisemitism in my opinion.

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Guthriesmachine's avatar

They're the same thing my dude.

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dave's avatar

Personally, I’ve never met either

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Martin Raymon's avatar

There's only ONE side that's extremists and that's the side that wants to gut Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, due process, the Constitution, and actual democracy. Joe, NOBODY on the left wants to do these things so stop with the “both sides” bullshit.

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Marie Burrus's avatar

Somehow, we have to find a way to get truth out there. How can they believe such lies? I don't know how, but somehow, we need to get people to research for truth. Yes, we stand up for the good and against the evil which is trump.

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EvergreenSoul's avatar

I'm curious how many rural areas lack internet and newspapers and rely solely on AM radio for any deeper discussion of current events. Does the Left have any voices on AM radio? If not, they should remedy that.

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Doc Blase''s avatar

Excellent, well said.

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Joy Ann Bonham's avatar

We absolute need an AM progressive radio station! I live in a rural mountain town and they (most sm biz blue collar workers) listen to right-wing AM radio cause it’s the only thing they can pick up.

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EvergreenSoul's avatar

Thank you for your feedback. I wasn't aware of this problem - as I suspect most Blue voters aren't - until I read someone else share about how they'd moved to a small town and discovered what an information desert it was.

I hope the word spreads to those WITH progressive media platforms and those who'd like to START such a platform.

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dave's avatar

The billionaire oligarch Soros is buying up AM radio stations.

As of 2024, 94.6% of Americans have internet.

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Ren's avatar

There is only one side that doesn’t want to talk.

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dave's avatar

I've asked about 6 questions on this posting. No answers, but one person had to inform me that I've beet muted.🤣🤣

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Roy Neyman's avatar

The country’s not done if it’s the PEOPLE who speak to power. It’s the PEOPLE who let democracy slide into partisan bickering, so the PEOPLE standing up via No Kings or Hands Off or other movements can bring back representative government to replace the divisiveness that has been promoted through capitalist greed. The PEOPLE have constituted the Silent Majority, but they’ve been awakened and just need to stay engaged. Think. Converse. Vote.

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Brad B's avatar

Democracy? Where? Show me that word in any of our founding documents. Just one.

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Roy Neyman's avatar

Interesting. I’ve done a word search on both the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and you’re right. It does seem, though, that the Constitution’s stipulations as to the formation of the Senate and House of Representatives comprises a functional definition of “democracy”. I’m curious, though. What’s your point? That democracy was not the intent of America’s founding, …that democracy is not a principle for which Americans should fight?

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Edith Taylor's avatar

This is so sad and infuriating! This administration has ruined the country! Don’t give me any both sides 🐂 💩

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Brad B's avatar

You sound like someone who lost access to free goodies

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dave's avatar

How?

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Max Michaels's avatar

Not buying it. HOW can anyone compare two sides?

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Kim's avatar

“At least one side is afraid of what will happen to them if they speak out”

Well one side gets arrested and the other might get told they are wrong.

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Vanha Talo Suomi's avatar

trump supporters still making the ‘both sides’ argument. I call bullshit.

these gathered people, and all the other trump supporters, former and present, brought the USA to the point it is now.

they were all willing to throw every other american to the wayside, but now that they become impacted by the decisions they collectively have made, it’s beyond them to realize THEY are all the problem that broke Democracy and ruined the USA.

I will not share the same airspace, or floor space with a trump supporter and that holds for eternity.

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Betsy Kerner's avatar

This man being asked his opinion is a fool who doesn't know the difference between parties & if he cared, would fight for our Democracy. He's a very frightened, uninformed person!

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